Volunteer List for Live Oak Baptist Church Fall Festival

    A quick rundown (as of 10/26) on the volunteers for the LOBC Fall Festival.  Would like you there between 4:30 and 5:00PM and we should be released shortly after 8:00PM.

Still room for volunteers for this, and/or the Crestview Fall Festival earlier in the day.

Comm Plan to follow later this week.

Craig KK4WDQ



Bruce KA5DLV


Ted KM4SRO & Sue

Rich N4DPM

Randy KN4OPX


Joe KN4UDS (Co-Lead)

Ron KI5FR (Co-Lead)

Ron Mahn KI5FR

[Editorial note: Live Oak Baptist Church Fall Festival is family fun at the church. NOARC has provided “parking lot control” of vehicles entering and departing the site. Simplex UHF is normally used, and extreme low power since we can see other. Bring extra battery, flashlight and reflective gear. This event is in lieu of door-to-door Trick or Treating.]

FCC Fee Opposition – now is the time!

From: ARRL Members Only Web site <memberlist@www.arrl.org>
Date: October 17, 2020 at 09:57:19 CDT
Subject: FCC Fee Opposition – now is the time! The amateur radio fee proposal has been published in the Federal


Now that it is published, it is time to comment on the FCC website:


AND, if you wish, reference the Federal Register, and send your comments
to your elected representatives and the President.


The Priority is getting comments filed with the FCC.

ARRL Washington Counsel David Siddall, K3ZJ, has suggested the following

Arguments Against FCC Fees for Radio Amateurs

1. Amateurs contribute to the public good. In many areas they provide an
emergency communications backbone capability at no taxpayer cost.
Consistently we have witnessed storms and natural disasters completely
wipe out internet, cellular, and other means of communication.  Radio
amateurs often fill that void on an unmatched, flexible basis when
needed.  One recent example is the California wildfires.  

2. Unlike operators in other FCC licensed services, Amateur Radio
operators by law – domestic and international — must eschew using
their license for any pecuniary interest.  Amateurs are prohibited from
earning or charging any money for any communications activity.  The
expenses for their equipment and activities come out of their own
pockets, with no opportunity for reimbursement or payment of any kind.

3. The United States is experiencing a severe lack of RF engineers and
expertise at the very time it is needed by the burgeoning wireless
industries.    Amateur radio is helping to meet the deficit, but much
more is needed and youngsters (High School and College-aged) are least
able to afford licensing fees.  RF knowledge and related digital
expertise is needed to maintain U.S. leadership in wireless industries.
At a minimum, young people (below the age of 26) should be exempt from
the proposed license fees.

4. Amateur radio is self-regulating.  (a) Amateur examinations are
written and administered by radio amateur volunteers.  (b) Examination
results and paperwork most often are submitted electronically to the
FCC.  Electronic submission could be required if there would be a cost
savings to the Commission. (c) Amateur radio educational classes are
conducted by volunteers who by-and-large do not charge fees or tuition
for teaching.  (d) The amateur service, in cooperation with the FCC’s
Enforcement Bureau, has a volunteer corp that monitors the amateur
airwaves and has programs that try to prevent their misuse before FCC
involvement might be needed.  The amateurs also observe non-amateur
signals both within amateur spectrum and outside it, and report unusual
or suspicious signals.

5. Amateur radio continues to be a source of significant technological
innovation that should be encouraged, not discouraged.

Some Suggestions

I do not recommend arguing that the $50. fee every 10 years, which
amounts to $5.00 a year, will “kill” amateur radio, even though as
proposed this is for each covered application, which includes upgrade
applications.  Tech-General-Extra  could be $150. if exams taken at
different sessions, a substantial amount.  But it “rings” the wrong
way to say the whole service turns on $5./year for each licensee. If
that’s all it would take ….

The Commission argues that the charges are required by the statute.  The
word used is “shall”, which is mandatory, not optional.  But the
statute does not set the amount, nor does it prohibit reasonable
exceptions – evidenced by the Commission’s proposal to exempt from
fees administrative update applications based on policy grounds.

This is not “aimed at amateur radio to kill it.”  There is a long
history and precedent on charging fees for the licensing service
involved, just as there is for passports, green cards, drivers licenses
(issued by states), etc.  Better to make pertinent arguments on why the
fees would impair the public benefits of the amateur radio service than
argue that the whole service might die as a result of a fee that, in
fact, is less than the fee many of us paid in the 1960’s and 1970’s,
including myself as a struggling high school and college student (if
adjusted for inflation).

For background: this proceeding is being handled by staff unfamiliar
with amateur radio.  It is being handled in the FCC’s Office of
Managing Director (OMD), not in the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau
where the amateur-specific Part 97 matters are handled.  The focus of
OMD is accounting – budgets and the like for the entire Commission.
The fee proposals cover every FCC license and service across the board
and the consideration was directed by Congress.  I recommend keeping
“ham jargon” out of comments, it won’t be understood by the
intended recipients.”


ARRL Southeastern Division
Director: Mickey V Baker, N4MB

Input requested concerning license training — are we dinosaurs?

NOARC members,
The Education and Training Committee is evaluating our methods of providing training for the Technician, General, and Extra licenses.  We are concerned that, in this age of virtual instruction in our schools, our training methods may be outdated.  (Are we dinosaurs?)  We’re asking if there are ways we could better server our community, and we need your input.
The schedule driver is a potential General class that would start in January 2021.  If we are to hold classes in our normal, live-instruction forum, the Committee needs to start making preparations in early November.  Since the General books and question bank have changed since the last time we taught the subject, this will involve substantial effort prior to the class.
We presented our concerns at the October business meeting, and the slides from that presentation are attached.  In a nutshell, we need to decide what training NOARC should be doing in the future

The options are:
1.  Continue to provide live classes, either in-person (Covid permitting) or remotely (via Zoom).

2.  Refer potential students to recorded classes, and concentrate on being Elmers for questions and for getting started operating after the exam is passed.

3.  Do no instruction or Elmering, just testing.

We need input on your point of view.  We would like you to answer the following questions:
1.  How did you study for your license?  What method (class, self-study, YouTube, whatever) worked best for you?  Why?
2.  Do you think NOARC should continue the current method of instruction?  What changes would you recommend?
3.  Have you served as an instructor for a NOARC class?
4.  Have you been an Elmer for a new licensee within the last three years?

Bruce (KA5DLV) and I (W4BZM) would welcome input via whatever method is best for you — verbal, e-mail, discussion on a web page post or Facebook, via 147.36 after the GCVTN, notes passed on a napkin, whatever. 

We’d like to have your input by 23 October.  PLEASE don’t put this in the “I’ll get around to it” or “let somebody else do it, I don’t care” stack.  

Link to Document

Thank you, in advance, for you help.  
73, Mike W4BZM

UPCOMING EXAM – 11/07/2020

There will be an amateur radio exam on Saturday, November 07th, 9:00 am  start,  likely Building D, at Live Oak Baptist Church, 4565 Live Oak Church Road, in Crestview, FL 32539.

Please arrive about 8:30 or a little after.  The fee is $10.00 cash, check or Money Order; if writing a check, make it out to WCARS/VEC.

Unlicensed applicants must have an FRN (Federal Registration Number); Social Security Numbers are no longer allowed.  Obtain your FRN before the exam, from the FCC site at https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/systems-utilities/universal-licensing-system (New User Registration link)

Masks will be required, and we will adhere to the CDC’s six-foot social distancing recommendation.  If you have a special need physically, let us know early, and we will do our best to accommodate you.

Applicants must preregister to me directly, or send a note to me via the club website CONTACT US tab at W4AAZ.com. Space will be limited.